Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/12/2000 02:13 PM Senate JUD

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Number 2302                                                                                                                     
               SB 201-DNA TESTING & REGISTRATION                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER DEL SMITH, Department of Public Safety, said                                                                
the State has been collecting DNA samples since 1996 from people                                                                
convicted of person crimes and the samples have been stored at the                                                              
crime lab.  The lab processes the samples and creates files that                                                                
can be uploaded to the national system so they can be checked                                                                   
against known samples from crime scenes.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SMITH said SB 201 will add felony burglary to                                                               
the list of people who will be required to give a DNA sample.                                                                   
Burglaries are included because the review of national statistics                                                               
indicates that 52% of the people convicted or arrested on person                                                                
crimes have been convicted of burglaries previously.  Having DNA                                                                
samples from convicted individuals will help solve crimes sooner.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SMITH noted that SB 201 also allows for a                                                                   
parole officer, peace officer or probation officer to take a DNA                                                                
sample.  Blood samples have been used in the past and SB 201 allows                                                             
for the use of a swab to take saliva from an individual.  This will                                                             
be more efficient and less intrusive and a sample can be taken                                                                  
without undue discomfort or inconvenience.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Deputy Commissioner Smith said there is also a section  in SB 201                                                               
that enables the sample to be removed from the data base if the                                                                 
person is found not guilty.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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MR. ROBERT BUTTCANE, Juvenile Probation Officer with the Division                                                               
of Juvenile Justice for the Department of Health and Social                                                                     
Services (DHSS), said DHSS supports SB 201.  SB 201 will give the                                                               
system an opportunity to solve more crimes and hold people                                                                      
accountable.  Technology has advanced so that DNA samples can now                                                               
be collected with a mouth swab rather than drawing blood.  SB 201                                                               
allows youth counselors, probation officers and correctional                                                                    
officers to require a person convicted of one of the applicable                                                                 
offenses to submit to a DNA sampling.  Failure to do so will                                                                    
subject them to a violation of law under title 11.  Once the sample                                                             
has been taken it is catalogued and put into a state registry,                                                                  
which is limited to law enforcement use only.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANDACE BROWER, Department of Corrections (DOC), said DOC                                                                   
supports SB 201.  For the past five years, the medical staff of                                                                 
correctional facilities have been responsible for the collection of                                                             
DNA samples and DOC is glad there will be an expansion of who can                                                               
collect samples.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said he was concerned that a DNA sample can be                                                                  
easily tainted.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEANN STRICKLAND, supervisor of the DNA section at the                                                                      
laboratory, commented that 13 different genetic loci are looked at                                                              
when analyzing samples and if there is some type of contamination                                                               
it will be seen in the analysis.  If a contamination is seen,                                                                   
another sample will be asked for or the sample will be retested.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked how it will be known that a sample is                                                                     
tainted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRICKLAND said each individual can have two alternate forms of                                                             
any of the loci and if more than two forms of any given gene appear                                                             
in the data analysis the sample itself would be questioned.  It is                                                              
very rare for an individual to have more than two alternate forms                                                               
at any one locus or any one gene type.  People working in the lab                                                               
will be able to look at the DNA typing evidence to determine if                                                                 
there are low levels of another contributor or something in the                                                                 
sample that does not fit the pattern of a single source sample.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR noted the Alaska Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has                                                               
filed a paper in opposition to SB 201.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR wondered about the retro activity provision in  SB
201 going back to 1996.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SMITH replied that 1996 is when the original                                                                
data base was started and because the bill applies to offenses                                                                  
occurring on or after January 1, 1996, the retroactive provision                                                                
was felt to be logical.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GEORGE TAFT added that the labs are only looking at the 13 loci                                                             
for a persons identification and not for medical maladies of the                                                                
person.  The labs are not able to tell a persons medical history                                                                
from the loci.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said one of the questions raised by the ACLU was                                                                
whether or not the 13 loci will indicate the racial makeup of the                                                               
individual.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRICKLAND responded no.  The profile will not indicate the                                                                 
racial group the person is from but it will give an indication as                                                               
to which racial group from that particular profile will be expected                                                             
to be most common and which particular racial group is expected to                                                              
be most rare.  The profile itself will not identify the race of the                                                             
individual.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked if there is a national standard for testing                                                               
or a national verification system that is used.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRICKLAND said the laboratory where she works is an accredited                                                             
laboratory and they follow the DAB standards.  DAB is the DNA                                                                   
Advisory Board that has set forth the standards for forensic DNA                                                                
testing labs.  These standards set forth quality assurance that                                                                 
must be met in confirming analysis of forensic samples.  These                                                                  
standards also pertain to the convicted offender samples.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked what agency audits them.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRICKLAND said her laboratory has been accredited by the                                                                   
American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors (ASCLD).  The DAB                                                                
standards are used by auditors as well as the ASCLD standard.  The                                                              
DAB has been signed off by the Director of the FBI.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked what is used to make certain that the system                                                              
is accountable and renders accurate results.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAFT responded that the lab is tested and accredited and the                                                                
people working in the lab are proficiency tested.  There is also a                                                              
yearly inspection by people from outside the laboratory.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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MS. LAURIE HUGONAN, Executive Director for the Alaska Network on                                                                
Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault, said the Network supports SB
201.  The Network is interested in making as many DNA samples                                                                   
available as possible, so when there is a sexual assault crime the                                                              
samples will be run for comparisons as soon as possible.  This will                                                             
help in finding the guilty person and  it will increase the                                                                     
likelihood of DNA matches being found.                                                                                          

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